00:06 This project is being carried out within the new area of Art, Science, Technology and Society at Tabakalera.
00:14 This is an area that we have considered to be strategically important since Medialab was set up.
00:26 The project of Clouds began in 2017, 2018, we had an artistic idea of exploring a new type of data storage where data storage,
00:33 instead of being in a cloud far away, creating a lot of pollution and consuming a lot of energy could be stored in DNA.
00:42 if you can store your data in DNA, you can also store it in any organism.
00:46 But we thought it's probably more interesting to store it in something more generative for the planet.
00:51 So plants, trees, things which can remediate carbon dioxide,
00:56 create oxygen, create ecosystems, generally have a more positive impact on the planet.
01:05 So for the clouds of pollen, we decided to focus on the one particular aspect of storing data in plants, which is pollination.
01:14 Then we have two installations of actual pollen that is spinning around looking a little bit like a cloud.
01:22 Those pollens are not encoded with any data, but you could sort of like get yourself imagine
01:30 how would the future look like if those actually could have some of the images or pictures inside.
01:38 I think that artists again and again, if you look at the history,
01:42 they've been the ones that have really paved the way for new ways of looking at the world and enabled us to go to new places.
01:53 Science is important too, because science is sometimes enabling these new ways.
02:00 We think culture is something and science and technology is something else,
02:04 but it's really in a circular relationship.
02:14 Freud always said that dreams are like a gateway to our subconscious mind
02:23 and here we are seeing if we really also want to share our dreams with a robot.
02:33 We’ve started out with small prototypes
02:38 and one that we have here is where we are going to share our dreams.
02:49 There are various buttons to choose the language,
02:53 and behind this there’s going to be the microphone that I can then approach
02:59 and, when the recording light comes on, then I can talk about my dream:
03:05 Today I saw an elephant in my dream…
03:10 And the system takes the dream, and transforms the text.
03:22 There is an initial artificial intelligence device that turns the voice into text.
03:27 It goes from text to image, and goes from your explanation of the dream to an image
03:35 that is halfway between figurative and abstract,
03:38 which the industrial robot then draws,
03:42 provides an interpretation of based on the artificial intelligence that we have created,
03:50 and helps the person who has explained their dream
03:56 to better interpret, discover, and reinterpret the dreams that they have had and explained to the robot.
04:14 Holobot is a project that we support by VR Kommand,
04:19 So, we set up a meta machine with a Tekniker robot
04:25 that was on Twitter and which displayed the Twitter users
04:30 that were in its surrounding area, and caught them, like spirits,
04:33 in a series of holograms that could only be seen by using interfaces like screens or cameras.
04:44 What the robot did was a choreography, it was constantly dancing.
04:48 To the untrained eye it is just a dancing robot.
04:52 However, through interfaces like the camera,
04:57 we use an exposure technique that was higher than usual,
05:02 so that a kind of light painting was created and this could be seen through the screens.
05:08 That is, in actual fact this choreography was emitting holograms
05:13 just like, for example, plants do on other frequencies.
05:22 Like most of the projects backed by Medialab, it has aims on various levels.
05:28 First of all, creating new multidisciplinary and multi-departmental work groups,
05:34 so that three of us who were artists from new media could work with the Medialab team.
05:42 The second aim is also to join forces with others,
05:44 but in this case to work based on our vision of reality to approach other possible sciences.
05:58 We got together with two astrophysicists, Silvia Bonoli and Raúl Angulo
06:04 from the Donostia International Physics Center.
06:10 And we also met up with an amateur astronomy group that holds their weekly meetings at Tabakalera.
06:20 This is an opportunity that we don’t usually have because they are worlds that are not closely linked,
06:28 so for us, as artists, it’s a really special opportunity.
06:35 ‘Supraspectives’ is, basically what we do is we get the position in real time
06:41 from all spy and military satellites, which are known but known is a difficult word
06:49 because it's basically what different sources, not necessarily the official ones have.
06:54 And also a lot of citizens and amateur astronomers have found or thought to be,
07:01 yes, spacecrafts for spy military surveillance, military communication, etc., purposes.
07:13 And what we do is we basically project the speculative view of that satellite.
07:19 So we get the position of each satellite. We place a virtual camera.
07:23 We look down and see what the satellite potentially could see from the current position.
07:30 Of course, we don't get the life data of the camera. That would be crazy
07:34 if the US military or Russian military would give us the life camera of a satellite.
07:39 So that's obviously impossible.
07:43 There's very little known about them
07:46 and they constantly are there. They are there very often forever.
07:51 But in the end, 95 percent of these objects it’s trash.
07:55 I mean, we only started about 50 to 60 years ago now,
07:58 and 60 years later now we already have a kind of a trash problem in space.
08:03 because now, what can we do with our satellites?
08:09 For us, as artists, the actual content of science or the content of technology is not too interesting
08:16 but yes the social or political implication.