00:15 In my life I have been lucky enough to have great teachers,
00:19 and to have great disciples
00:22 who have become my teachers over the years.
00:31 I've always loved a saying that I read in a mystical classic.
00:36 by Gustave Thibon, a book called 'Our blind gaze before the light':
00:41 "I'd rather be outdone than just follow me'.
00:44 True influence does not consist of
00:47 in moulding the spirit of the other in our own image and likeness,
00:50 but in awakening the artist in each one of us.
00:53 to sculpt his work, even if it is contrary to our desires.
01:03 Perhaps we live in a too strong acceleration that prevents us from seeing what is essential.
01:07 I always say science, real creativity, not fireworks,
01:12 needs time, understood as calmness.
01:18 Time to read, time to think,
01:21 time to make mistakes,
01:23 because every piece of paper that is thrown in the wastebasket
01:25 with an idea that hasn't worked out is a way too.
01:29 Newton is seven years before he writes his work.
01:33 Would it be possible today to have peace of mind
01:36 that the creators of quantum physics had?
01:40 Heisenberg would have had to write ten or twelve papers.
01:43 on known topics to get funding.
01:47 Schrödinger would never have published enough.
01:49 to get a permanent position.
01:54 The current acceleration leads to a too strong specialisation.
02:00 and it's good to realise how sometimes excessive specialisation
02:04 not only doesn't allow us to see things that other people do,
02:09 but it prevents us from seeing different ways of doing things.
02:15 This lack of calm, moreover, this extreme competitiveness,
02:20 at premature moments in the race,
02:23 can lead to alienation from the culture,
02:26 from knowledge or science,
02:30 to minds and characters that are not at ease with this tension.
02:43 There has been a lot of talk in the crisis about solidarity,
02:46 solidarity with the elderly to whom we owe so much,
02:49 solidarity with the less developed countries...
02:54 But there is a solidarity that has not been talked about,
02:57 sufficiently at least, and it seems essential to me,
03:01 which is solidarity with the future,
03:05 which is to help young people, not just to be clear about the ends,
03:08 but above all the means.
03:10 That is to say, to contribute with the necessary means
03:13 so that young people have the right tools
03:16 to face the increasingly difficult problems of the future,
03:20 so that they have conceptual and material tools.
03:23 This solidarity with the future requires, above all,
03:26 education, first and foremost,
03:28 and science and technology, in my opinion, in second place,
03:30 and by education I include culture and all branches of the arts.
03:38 Obviously, what we can't go on with is accelerated development.
03:42 If we think that after what we've seen,
03:45 or we're seeing in other fields,
03:47 development is going to come
03:49 from an increasing and unlimited exploitation of natural resources,
03:53 we are building a civilisation with feet of clay.
03:58 And that's where the science comes in, because development
04:02 will have to come from an increasing knowledge of nature,
04:05 of matter, of learning to do more using less.
04:09 And I think that was evident before the pandemic, and it's evident now,
04:13 because it's quite possible that these pandemics
04:16 are not the most serious problems that we're going to encounter.
04:20 The big problems of mankind are still energy,
04:24 water, health, of course,
04:27 and these are things that have to be tackled now,
04:30 and it's going to require not doing more of the same.
04:34 But don't be naive in your thinking:
04:37 "now we are going to change".
04:39 This change will be very difficult because
04:41 the one who is doing well will resist,
04:42 and the one that does badly will want to change,
04:44 and you have to find a balance.
04:46 That's why an informed society is very important.
04:55 We, when we started to focus specifically on the city
05:00 and on the development of the technology centres,
05:02 we had two ideas: first, Donostia as a Science City,
05:06 that is to say that contributions to universal knowledge would be produced here.
05:11 This can be transferred to Donostia, City of Culture.
05:14 And another very important idea: Science in the City, Culture in the City,
05:19 that is to say, that this elite production
05:23 would be enjoyed, shared and supported by the city.
05:29 I have had a great relationship with Joxean Fernandez's team.
05:33 through the Cinema and Science programme.
05:37 And also with the director of the Film Festival,
05:40 through the collaborations that we do with the intermediation of Tabakalera.
05:45 And the Film and Science cycle has gone very well.
05:49 The proudest I've ever been in my professional life,
05:53 is the teams I have created and the institutions I have helped to create,
05:59 that will remain when I'm gone.
06:02 And that's a collective work.
06:04 The key to a great research group,
06:08 and it should be also of a great cultural group, is an ecosystem
06:13 where normal people can do great work.
06:16 That would be my wish for Tabakalera:
06:20 normal people who can do a great job.
06:30 Science is creativity, not bureaucracy and method,
06:33 and being creativity it cannot be taught as a method or a recipe.
06:39 The only way to learn how to do science
06:42 is to do it with those who do it well,
06:45 and that's why it's important that there are schools, lineages of scientific activity.
06:50 And that's why elite institutions are important,
06:53 and that's why it's important to create elite institutions.
06:55 This is where this idea of lineages, of structures could be applied to Tabakalera.
06:59 It's important that there are elite institutions
07:01 where by working with the creators you learn to be creative.
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