00:17 The main starting point is to seek collaboration between art and science,
00:22 so that artists and scientists can inspire each other.
00:33 We have come to meet with two astrophysicists from the Donostia International Physics Center,
00:41 and this is a rare opportunity,
00:44 because they are very different worlds that don't usually have a connection.
00:50 So for us, as artists, it's a very special opportunity.
00:59 Imagine a big circular screen, and all the lights are pointing to the centre.
01:06 It's like a sun, and from there you project.
01:12 Technology has always been one of the driving forces behind artistic creation.
01:17 When the first computers were developed,
01:21 artists were already working with them.
01:23 And if we go back in time, when cameras first came into existence,
01:27 photocopies or video work,
01:30 there were already artists using these technologies for their creations.
01:35 There are many points that allow hanging at different heights.
01:40 It could work.
01:45 For us, as artists, the real content of the science
01:50 or technology is not so interesting
01:53 as its social and political implications.
01:59 For example, we have an installation called 'Orbits',
02:02 where we calculate all the positions
02:06 of the objects left by man in space.
02:09 We visualise the routes of these objects
02:13 and they are just beautiful,
02:15 but, if you think about it, 95 percent of those objects are junk.
02:27 In working with science, our goal is not to educate people.
02:30 We don't want to say, "Look, this is the way it is or should be".
02:33 or "look at the sky, look what's up there".
02:36 It's fine if that happens, but it's not the main purpose.
02:40 The main purpose is to raise issues, not to answer questions.
02:46 Spaces like this are necessary to reflect, in a democratic way,
02:51 the advances of technology in society,
02:56 since it liberates artists so much...
03:00 ...as well as the works of art from the purely commercial aspects.
03:06 Especially when you talk about technology and you work with technology.
03:11 If you want to question it, there's no other way, it's expensive.
03:16 It's not easy for an artist to find spaces like this to produce,
03:21 so that for certain kinds of narratives they are necessary
03:25 publicly funded spaces like this.
03:32 The Medialab concept is very interesting, as it combines a public library
03:36 with contemporary creative technologies.
03:41 It's very interesting because I can come as a citizen,
03:44 I have my own project and I can develop it
03:49 with someone to guide me through the process.
03:58 Just around the corner there is a project made by young people,
04:02 I think they're in their 20s, but they started when they were 16.
04:06 And they're building their own rockets. And they're flying them.
04:09 And this is just one of the projects in this space.
04:14 And it's amazing. I mean, if at 16 years old
04:18 I could have built a rocket in a place like this, it would have been great.
04:25 For me, it's essential to work collaboratively.
04:29 I didn't study visual arts or anything like that.
04:32 When I finished my studies I started working
04:35 with electronics, programming and technology,
04:39 and some of it was self-taught, but a lot of it was
04:44 thanks to the collaboration with other artists in order to move forward.
04:49 In general, in the visual arts, there is a lot of collaboration between artists.
04:54 collaboration between artists to achieve their dreams or their works.